Finally saw Dark Knight.
Jul. 24th, 2008 09:28 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
(Almost a week after everyone else, I know, but these things happen.)
I thought this was excellent. I don't like Batman much, but this? I liked this. Maybe it's because Batman's character wasn't really the focus. He was just there when needed. Shoddy acting on Bale's part? Maybe, but like I said, I'm not that fond of Batman, and I enjoy Gotham stories most when Batman's character isn't the focus--he has some of the best supporting characters out there.
They really sold Harvey Dent in this one. Every time early on someone said something ironic (often featuring the word "face"), I flinched. Did a great, great job of making me see a tragic hero. In my opinion, what made this movie so strong is that it used the two greatest of Batman's villains, the one who is most like him and the one who is most unlike. What makes Two-Face so compelling, what has always made him so compelling, is that Harvey Dent was truly a good man, a man Batman was willing to work with, a man to whom Batman in some versions was on the verge of revealing his identity. He was the kind of person Bruce Wayne might have become.
The Joker, on the other hand, is so compelling because he makes 99.9% of other villains look like your close friends. Most people, you can understand what motivates them, can see where they're coming from, can imagine a world in which you are on the same side. With the Joker? No. He's alien in a way none of the true aliens of the DCU are. You can't be on his side even for a minute. And this was a masterly performance. *votes for posthumous Oscar*
It's interesting to look at this as a mixture of several Batman stories, especially The Killing Joke, and see how it changed--in this story the man who was given "one bad day" was Harvey Dent, not Gordon, and it did break him as TKJ didn't break Gordon. (I'm just as glad for the change, since somehow Rachel's death felt much less like fridging to me. Maybe because she was involved in the plot on her own? Maybe because it really could have been her or Harvey?)
Speaking of which, wow, slashy much? I must go quest for fic now, because WOW subtext.
♥ Alfred, as always. Just assume a whole lot of ♥ all 'round.
I thought this was excellent. I don't like Batman much, but this? I liked this. Maybe it's because Batman's character wasn't really the focus. He was just there when needed. Shoddy acting on Bale's part? Maybe, but like I said, I'm not that fond of Batman, and I enjoy Gotham stories most when Batman's character isn't the focus--he has some of the best supporting characters out there.
They really sold Harvey Dent in this one. Every time early on someone said something ironic (often featuring the word "face"), I flinched. Did a great, great job of making me see a tragic hero. In my opinion, what made this movie so strong is that it used the two greatest of Batman's villains, the one who is most like him and the one who is most unlike. What makes Two-Face so compelling, what has always made him so compelling, is that Harvey Dent was truly a good man, a man Batman was willing to work with, a man to whom Batman in some versions was on the verge of revealing his identity. He was the kind of person Bruce Wayne might have become.
The Joker, on the other hand, is so compelling because he makes 99.9% of other villains look like your close friends. Most people, you can understand what motivates them, can see where they're coming from, can imagine a world in which you are on the same side. With the Joker? No. He's alien in a way none of the true aliens of the DCU are. You can't be on his side even for a minute. And this was a masterly performance. *votes for posthumous Oscar*
It's interesting to look at this as a mixture of several Batman stories, especially The Killing Joke, and see how it changed--in this story the man who was given "one bad day" was Harvey Dent, not Gordon, and it did break him as TKJ didn't break Gordon. (I'm just as glad for the change, since somehow Rachel's death felt much less like fridging to me. Maybe because she was involved in the plot on her own? Maybe because it really could have been her or Harvey?)
Speaking of which, wow, slashy much? I must go quest for fic now, because WOW subtext.
♥ Alfred, as always. Just assume a whole lot of ♥ all 'round.
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Date: 2008-07-25 02:25 am (UTC)Also, Tiny Lister= amazing. I really like the ferry part.
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Date: 2008-07-25 02:26 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-07-25 02:29 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-07-25 05:14 pm (UTC)(Not in the woobie-fying sort of way, mind you. But the fact remains.)
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Date: 2008-07-28 03:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-07-25 02:32 pm (UTC)And Joker's psychosis was so damn hot... loved the part with him sitting in the jail. Every word out of his mouth was twisted genius.